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But Frank has no idea what sort of absolute SH*T manners most women have to deal with from men in online dating. Sure, you women have a lot of attention on there and don't have to sell your good qualities to find a man.
So his assumptions about "why" western women are like this on those sites is probably waaaaaaay off if he thinks we are just stuck up beeotches who don't think our poo stinks. If you guys got 100 messages per day of outright spam disguised as messages from real women who wanted to date you...would you be so excited to answer all those messages as you currently THINK we women should be excited about answer the hundreds of messages from completely inappropriate strangers to us? That is the point I think he is trying to make, that an average man gets overlooked every time. Western women are spoiled with attention that makes even a 5/10 think she's a 9.
They didn't feel entitled to being wowed in a first message. Western women generally don't sell themselves well.
They understand that friendship (or whatever) takes a little time to build. They use their profiles as a personal blog, and then expect men to read everything.
I think Frank simply appreciates people who approach interactions on the internet the same way they would in real life, with manners. As a guy that was in a similar predicament as Frank, online dating with Western women sucks.I joined OKCupid a year ago, to see what all the fuss was about. I don't work out every single week but I do keep in shape to a reasonable extent and I'm quite active. I've dated a lot of women and more often than not it's been pretty good with most of them. A rough estimate of the number of women that I've sent initial messages to is about... The nature of my messages has ranged from normal greetings to slightly cheeky (but not rude) comments about something they say or something in one of their pictures. I have an ok job and a part time business on the side and I'm not in any debt and I have quite a good lifestyle. I've seen maybe a couple of thousand profiles over the last year, possibly more, and I can honestly say that the percentage of them that come across as dateable is around 2%. I know that's a very rough estimate but it seems about right to me.The other side to that is if you do happen to respond to a guy nicely--chances are you are going to get a **** pick in response. OKCupid in particular is not the place to look for "manners." Yikes. The **** that western women have to put with is almost alien to foreign women.
I think the bottom line in these discussions is this: If she doesn't think you're hot, she's not going to respond, no matter what you say in your message. It's almost as if western women portray themselves as not to be taken seriously. I'm not condoning it, but western women bring it on themselves. Most men are losers who bombard women with silly messages Most western women are losers and thus they get treated like losers.
Some of them even (and I kid you not, I've spotted it many times) tell the reader to quote something from their profile to prove that they read it. You don't get such neurotic nonsense from the other women in other countries. By contrast, a woman from Vietnam or Malaysia or Hungary or Colombia will actually mention what she thinks are her best attributes, things that men find appealing.